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#1 by allgoo19 on August 8, 2010 - 2:16 pm
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@Iain1962
“Righto whatever you choose to think..”
Who needs your permission? Did I ask you for that?
What was your purpose of responding to my comment in the first place then? Wan’t it to prove that my point was wrong? Now you proved yourself having no point, walk away with the tail between your legs?
Be a man and try to make your point.
#2 by Iain1962 on August 8, 2010 - 3:15 pm
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@allgoo19 Righto whatever you choose to think.
#3 by allgoo19 on August 8, 2010 - 3:39 pm
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@Iain1962
“Well see it goes deeper..”
Finally, you are getting bit closer. You are slow, aren’t you?
There’s someone behind gov. It’s not the gov. controling the fed. but that someone is, isn’t it?
Choosing a wrong word just shows your ignorance.
Don’t just come onto youtube pretending like you are the most knowledgeable person, k?
Your quote, “I’m a businessman, I know the economics.” Sheeeeesh!! If that’s the truth, nobody has to go to shcool to learn it.
#4 by allgoo19 on August 8, 2010 - 3:49 pm
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@Iain1962
“Ha ha now are just being pathetic, you have the internet obviously, so use it…”
It’s not my opinion. I’ve never seen it, I can’t find it.
You found it and took it as your opinion. Why can’t you find it again?
Where is it?
“name someone with credential saying fed. is controled by gov.?”
allgoo19 10 hours ago
#5 by Iain1962 on August 8, 2010 - 4:30 pm
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@allgoo19 Ha ha now are just being pathetic, you have the internet obviously, so use it..
#6 by allgoo19 on August 8, 2010 - 4:31 pm
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@Iain1962
“Did you watch the film ..”
It is interesting to see that a person like you who read many books and watched many videos can’t name one person who agree with you.
“name someone with credential saying fed. is controled by gov.?”
#7 by allgoo19 on August 8, 2010 - 4:44 pm
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@Iain1962
“Of course some have been reappointed ..”
“Name one that missed re-appointmewnt against his will.”
No answer. This means repeating 4 yr. terms is just the same as life time employment of SC justices, correct?
#8 by allgoo19 on August 8, 2010 - 5:11 pm
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@Iain1962
“Of course some have been reappointed and some not..”
Name one that missed re-appointmewnt against his will.
And don’t forget, name someone with credential saying fed. is controled by gov.
#9 by allgoo19 on August 8, 2010 - 5:33 pm
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@Iain1962
“Did you watch the film and read the books and do the other research?..”
Show me an article written by somebody says Fed. is controled by gov.
#10 by Iain1962 on August 8, 2010 - 6:14 pm
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@allgoo19 Eh? Theology was never mentioned, I don’t blindly believe anything, I read the books and watch the movies and do background research and read government documents, and use my eyes and ears and personal experience to assess and analyse the data.
#11 by Iain1962 on August 8, 2010 - 6:36 pm
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@allgoo19 Of course some have been reappointed and some not.
Did you watch the film and read the books and do the other research?
#12 by allgoo19 on August 8, 2010 - 7:01 pm
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@Iain1962
“Religion where did theat come from?..”
Religious believe in any theory or opinion. Unlike you.
I beleive when I see the evidence, proof.
#13 by allgoo19 on August 8, 2010 - 8:00 pm
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@Iain1962
“the head of the Fed is appointed for fours years..”
You couldn’t name one that missed the re-appointment.
Does it make any difference?
#14 by Iain1962 on August 8, 2010 - 8:03 pm
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@allgoo19 Religion where did theat come from?
Well did you watch the film and read the book and do some of the research? Who cares about credentials? Supreme court judges are appointed for life, the head of the Fed is appointed for fours years, read what Alanm Greenspan believed about the Gold standrad in the 60′s and look what he did as head of the Fed -the exact opposite…
Do the research then come back again, OK?
#15 by allgoo19 on August 8, 2010 - 8:19 pm
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@Iain1962
“your goal seems to be to “win”..”
Not entirely. I don’t have a religious belief about anything. If right evidence was presented, I’ll change my mind. I admire deep thinkers that try to convince people. You have been all opposite, defensive,
Supremecourt judges are appointed and once get the post they are independent. Do you know anybody says SC is controled by gov.?
Do you know anybody with credential says fed. is controled by gov.?
#16 by Iain1962 on August 8, 2010 - 8:55 pm
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@allgoo19 Well your goal seems to be to “win” a discussion where you decide what the criteria is, I left elementary school a long time ago, I don’t care if you understand all this or not, carry on with your life, I’ll carry on being a “youtube” economist as you say.
#17 by Iain1962 on August 8, 2010 - 9:41 pm
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@allgoo19 Absolute nonsense the proof is dripping all over the place, I have researched this in depth for many years I’m not even American I am interested because the Dollar is used as the currency of international trade, not because of domestic politics.
If you could see the big picture you would have a different view.
#18 by allgoo19 on August 8, 2010 - 9:47 pm
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@Iain1962
“Righto whatever you think carry on, because as you can see the system is working ..”
This conversation is not going in circle but stopped, when you had run out of proof.
You read article somewhere and took it as you read without understanding it, that’s why you are having hard tim explaining it.
Believe me, many people do.
If you stop looking into conservative propaganda and pay attention to big picture, you’ll find there’s something else driving the fed.
#19 by Iain1962 on August 8, 2010 - 10:20 pm
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@allgoo19 Well see it goes deeper, who cares, that’s the whole point, the Democrats and the Republicans both need the Fed, and the Fed needs them, one session they are working for extensions of the Fed, -For Goldman Sachs or JP Morgan or whoever, the next they are elected into office, it’s a revolving door, it doesn’t matter, it’s a big exclusive club, with the same people looking after each other.
If someone isn’t doing what they are told don’t worry they are swiftly ejected from the club.
#20 by allgoo19 on August 8, 2010 - 11:02 pm
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@Iain1962
“You are being deliberately obtuse ..”
Ok, how about this way.
What incident you got the clear impression that Fed. is controled by the gov.?
By the way, gov. can be changed depends on who’s in charge and who it is trying to serve.
Which gov. you are talking about?
#21 by Iain1962 on August 8, 2010 - 11:12 pm
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@allgoo19 Righto whatever you think carry on, because as you can see the system is working really well isn’t it, but I’m not going round in circles with you any more.
If you think everything is fine and the Fed is doing a great job then I wish you luck, I hope you do well.
#22 by allgoo19 on August 8, 2010 - 11:39 pm
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@Iain1962
“You are being deliberately obtuse ..”
Chairman of the Fed. doesn’t need to take order from president, doesn’t get disaproved. Show me any sign of being controled. That’s what I’m asking.
Ron Paul is asking Fed. to be accountable and audited. It’s easy if the president has control over Fed. But nobody had done that.
Does it look like gov. controling Fed.?
#23 by Iain1962 on August 9, 2010 - 12:32 am
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@allgoo19 You are being deliberately obtuse or you can’t see the wood for the trees, the President appoints the head of the Federal reserve? If you can appoint whosoever runs an organisation then you control it. What is there to prove?
#24 by rsmllc2 on August 9, 2010 - 1:18 am
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@JamalDOA We venerate Paul because he is the finest statesman of our generation.
The war is simply WRONG, as there was no constitutional or just war basis for our waging it in the first place, so ‘finishing everything’ is the just and constitutional thing to do.
9/11 was an inside job, designed to create a fear-based “let’s kill the towelheads” no-limit visa card for invading & occupying nations that did not attack us.
To STAY would be asinine. Bring the troops home NOW, to finish it.
#25 by JamalDOA on August 9, 2010 - 1:46 am
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Why is everyone venerating Ron Paul as if he’s some great diety with the answers to all of our problems?
I just don’t understand why people think ending this war is SO simple as to just withdraw troops and finish everything.
How QUICKLY do we forget about 9/11 and the consequences of not thoroughly fortifying our nation and monitoring the actions of our enemies.
To just withdraw from Afghanistan or Iraq, cold turkey, would be asinine. Did Bush start the war off wrongly? Yes. Finish it.