Comments on: Ron Paul Heroically Stands Up to Chris Matthews

By: jeffersonianideal

jeffersonianideal — Mon, 09 Aug 2010 19:06:40 +0000

@unoitaliano I appreciate your support. I promote the cause of liberty to many socialists and neo-conservatives. I am used to their contempt but never shirk from my beliefs. Most of us once belonged to another political party before discovering the logical and ethical principles of libertarianism. I am confident that many will awaken one day. I also trust that these virtuous political ideals would stand on their own, as natural rights, with or without the intervention from a supreme deity.

By: sisque16

sisque16 — Mon, 09 Aug 2010 18:19:08 +0000

@jeffersonianideal Show evidence, that shows the Omnibus Bill was ineffective at creating a surplus by a liberal columnist, intellectual, etc. The reason I emphasized “Liberal” because many conservatives agree with the results, they disagree with the principle. Why do you fear the gov’t? Jefferson suggested banks needed to be regulated by gov’t, and argued unfortunately, “gov’t cannot create a right to liberty.” This message would allow slavery to exist today b/c human have “innate morality.”

By: sisque16

sisque16 — Mon, 09 Aug 2010 17:19:20 +0000

@sisque16 Look, I think Ron Paul and libertarians are sincere in their beliefs, I think your/his views on Non-interventionism, spending cuts on homeland security, his analysis on terrorism are constutitional and are fundamentally accurate with my beliefs, however in terms of economics I strongly disagree and am willing to take under consideration evidence that would illustrate tax cuts to the top 1%, would increase middle-class incomes, show trickle down economics benefits poor people, etc.

By: bsprite217

bsprite217 — Mon, 09 Aug 2010 16:38:19 +0000

~*~Rand Paul for President 2012~*~

By: drizztmay

drizztmay — Mon, 09 Aug 2010 15:58:09 +0000

I love this man

By: virtuousvoice

virtuousvoice — Mon, 09 Aug 2010 15:45:15 +0000

i would have loved living in america in the late 19th or early 20th century before it was ruined by big government liberals, cops, and the pc crowd.

By: jeffersonianideal

jeffersonianideal — Mon, 09 Aug 2010 15:14:47 +0000

@sisque16 Neither the conservative nor liberal, Ludwig von Mises Institute: “The surplus deception is clearly discernible in the statistics of national debt. While the spenders are boasting about surpluses, the national debt is rising year after year. In 1998, the first year of the legerdemain surplus, it rose from $5.413 trillion to $5.526 trillion, due to a deficit of $112.9 billion. Since then it has risen to $5.643 trillion today, October 15, 2000, with another deficit of $117 billion.”

By: jeffersonianideal

jeffersonianideal — Mon, 09 Aug 2010 14:26:41 +0000

@sisque16 You did not answer my reasonable and pertinent questions but I will answer yours. You use the wisdom of Jefferson to prove my point. It is the people who must create and protect liberty. Such a responsibility should never be entrusted to government. We have already seen the results in the last 100 years of allowing government to be the guardian and regulator of freedom. That is why Jefferson sought to “bind their hands from mischief through the chains of the constitution.”

By: sisque16

sisque16 — Mon, 09 Aug 2010 14:02:01 +0000

@jeffersonianideal Oh please! To prove your point you cite a Libertarian institute. The reason I mentioned to cite from a Liberal is to show your lack of literature opposing your viewpoint, moreover convincing a socialist such as myself would be more credible. Why do you think I cite a BBC article to prove the Omnibus Bill created a surplus, your either denying fact or my evidence is an illusion to you?

By: sisque16

sisque16 — Mon, 09 Aug 2010 13:26:09 +0000

@jeffersonianideal I used Jefferson to show you that even he cautioned the people of the private sector, especially the private banks, not gov’t. Jefferson own views on private property unfortunately would allow slavery to continue, he argued “innate morality” would work, (which it does not, “innate morality” is the same as a moral relativist),etc. Jefferson’s main concern was too much gov’t can essentially become tyrannical; moreover that we have three branches of gov’t.